Episode 26: Free to Low-Cost Material
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Pat: 0:30
Hey everybody. Welcome back to this. Week's edition of breaking down the bites. That's right. You heard it right. If you listen to our last five minute episode a couple changes here on the show, going through a little bit of a soft rebrand, same great content, just a new name, logo, and a new cohost. Kyle is joining me and we have some really cool stuff planned for the feature of the show. Some more great guests, some more interactive things with you guys and gals the audience and just better all overall content going forward. So I'm your host, pat, as always, you can find me on Twitter at layer eight packet, and that is the number eight, and you can find the show on Twitter at breaking bites pod. We're actually pretty active on Twitter. So come say, hello, Kyle. You're the new guy in the room. Hey man. How you doing?
Kyle: 1:19
what's going on. Hey, this is awesome. Glad to be part of this. It's gonna be super cool going forward.
Pat: 1:28
Yeah, I was really looking forward to it. We have some really cool stuff planned, like I said, a little bit of a software rebrand. So, if you haven't listened to the previous episode, it's only about five minutes long. It's just me and. Sort of explaining what we're doing going forward and some of the rebrand stuff. So go listen to that. And then that episode will set up nicely for this one. So this episode, we are talking some of our favorite free to low cost content. So, just to kind of set the stage a little bit personally, Kyle, I think in the last couple of years, I don't know, maybe five, six years the amount of free content or at least low cost out there in the it space is just absolutely boomed. I mean, I think part of that is because it's so easy nowadays to be a content creator. I mean, basically people live on their cell phones and the cell phone has a record button and you can record anywhere, where wherever you're at and throw thoughts out there on the interwebs, in the ethere right. And basically call yourself a contact creator. So a lot of folks, a lot of companies have really taken that to heart and really built their platforms around free to low cost. Content out there. So, I think in the last couple of years, it's absolutely boomed and that's only benefited, the beginner, right? The folks trying to break in to the industry cuz you and I didn't have that when we were in college together and trying to, figure out what the hell we wanted to do with the rest of our lives. We didn't have any of this free content. So, yeah it's just incredible. The space is really boomed and I'm just curious to get your thoughts on that space and, kind of going.
Kyle: 3:00
Oh, yeah, it's definitely almost pulled to 180. I mean, we had to buy books and sit in lectures and just talk about it and play around. And now it's screen capture, softwares built into most operating systems. Everything's got a camera on it, everybody's got a cell phone or a laptop or something like that. And you can just record yourself doing something and, post it on the internet and. People watch it, if it's something interesting.
Pat: 3:23
Yeah, it's it. It's amazing. I think it's sort of coupled with the. The social media growth that's been going on the last few years, right? The talk, the Instagrams, the Facebooks, the, you. You name it, right? Whatever social platform is out there, you can pretty much get an audience across. So it just depends on where what space you live in and who's gonna listen to you, but, free content across all sorts of mediums, right? You have YouTube is obviously the big one. The big elephant in the room. YouTube is a phenomenal resource for people trying to get free. Content podcasts like this one and so many others just trying to, help folks break into the industry, whether that's, through various different mediums, this one just happens to be a podcast. So, there's a ton of good podcasts out there. Kind of, we're in that space of helping folks trying to. Get over some Hills websites, right? Full blown platforms out there. And obviously websites and internet in general is obviously a big one. And then you have like stuff like workshops and just individual people putting out like courses. And, they put out a couple per year, whatever, or whether that's through an email distro list or, whatever but the workshops are there and are really good. Lunch and learns and all that sort of stuff, all that exists. And it's just, it's amazing to see how far that's come over the last couple years. So I figured this would be a good episode to talk about, some of our favorite ones. Kyle and I have been around quite a bit and we've seen some come and go and. We put some of the best ones together in the room here. And we're gonna kind of talk about 'em and get a little shout out. So we're not getting paid for any of this. We're not sponsored by any of this. No, that's not to say we can't be sponsored. So if we mention your name in here and you wanna do something? Come at us, man. We're it's all good. But no and we sort of broke it down by. Specialty, if you will. So, area, whatever you wanna call it. So they're grouped by their likeness. So, the first one outta gate for me, like I said, one of the hottest industries out there right now is cyber security. The first one on the bat is the cyber mentor TCM. They have some amazing content for some low cost stuff out there. Those guys over there, just doing unbelievable work in the cyberspace and trying to train as many people as they can shout out to Zach hill. He was on the show a few weeks ago. Zach. Is part of that TCM crew over there. He also runs his own YouTube channel it crew question. So, he's very similar to what we're doing here. So we're all in the, sort of the same space. So, Zach Dakota, snow from beard it dad. Us we're all in that, trying to help beginners break into the scene sort of thing. So go support those guys. Those guys are great. Dakota was also on the show. A few episodes back he's great guy runs a live YouTube channel is live every week. So go check him out. He's the bearded it dad on YouTube. But anyway, getting back to TCM Zach joined us a few weeks ago, talked about it. He, the stuff that they're doing over there at TCM is awesome. He's really good. So they're over at the cyber mentor.com and again, they have classes and all kinds of courses you can take and it's cybersecurity geared. Also in the cyber security space or security space, you should say try hack me and hack the box. Tri hack. Me's really gained some steam over the last couple of years. You sign up for an account it's relatively cheap. I, there is a free tier and I personally have a account on tri hack me and I paid for the year. But there is a free tier that you don't necessarily have to pay for. But tri hack me is a full blown sandbox platform where you can basically learn to hack, do all the bad stuff. You're in your own box, in your own world, in your own sandbox and you can't hurt anybody else. So, but they also have rooms that you basically just go through and they're, like little workshops or whatever, you kind of work through whatever room vulnerability that, you're interested in or whatever that they have all that. And then they also have like different like capture the flag exercises, things of that nature. It's all there. All kinds of crazy stuff. So tri hacking is great. Hack. The boxes is another one. They have basically the same thing. They're competitors. I have an account on both. I tend to use tri hack me a little more. Just because I'm more familiar with the platform, but they're both great. It just depends on what preference you have. And they, like I said, full blown labs. They walk through it all. It's unbelievable to actually see what an actual hack is, right. Or what you're trying to attack and that sort of thing. So if you wanna be a good guy, trying to stop the bad guys, then you have to know how that attack plays out. Those two sites are great to get your hands dirty with some of the underbelly of the cybersecurity world. tons of great stuff over there as well. Do you have anything to add to that Kyle have you used any of these.
Kyle: 7:32
Yeah, you actually got me turned on to tri hack me. and I just got in and I was like, this is it. It's fun. It breaks a lot of the data and the hacks down into like nice little digestible chunks, and you're like, you actually get to play out a hack,
Pat: 7:49
Yeah, that's
Kyle: 7:50
In front of you and like, all hands on you can see what happens when you start, executing certain commands or find a vulnerability. And it's super.
Pat: 8:00
Yep. Yeah, that's the really cool stuff out there. So, and like I said, I know they it's funny tri hack me, they run a Christmas like a month of December. It's like a month long. Sort of contest or whatever, and as you complete rooms, and as you complete these labs and stuff, like you, you get your name entered in for more prizes. And that's usually, giveaways of some sort or some swag or whatever, that kind of thing, but it's a whole month long thing. And they basically, they build a program that to last a whole month that everybody does the same program. It just depends on how far you get. And obviously the further you get and the more involved you are, the more chance you are to win, said. Giveaways and swag and things of that nature, but it's Christmas theme. So like last year it was like, oh, Santa's, ready to go on his thing. And, somebody hacked the L's database and blah, blah, and it's like, they really play up a good storyline there and it keeps you interested. So, really cool stuff from both of those platforms over there, try hack, you hack the box and then TC. Those guys over there doing some really cool stuff, the cyber mentor. So go check those out. If you're in the in the cyber security space, if you're really interested in that there's some really good avenues there. And the other thing too, about all of this stuff, not just necessarily those two sites, you meet other like-minded people and honestly the best way to get your foot in the door. In most cases is by networking with people that are in your like-minded space. Especially for us here at the show. We meet so many different people on Twitter and Facebook and, they just interact with us. And at the time of this recording, it's middle of June and Cisco live just. Ended today in Las Vegas and shout out to my boss and a coworker that was out there for the four days. They looks like they had a blast and we got some really good knowledge outta that. But like for example, like we, we communicate with all these people on Twitter and you get to know these people in the cyber space, in the, looking at the screen and you interact with them daily, almost daily. And you really get to know them and whatnot. And then a conference like Cisco live was the perfect platform to go out and meet these people in real life. So, it's a lot about who you network with. It's a lot about. The connections you make, whether on LinkedIn or Twitter or whatever platform, you tend to connect over but you know, meet everybody and anybody that you can, who knows what kind of doors are gonna open and what happens. So, the bigger you are out there in the space, if somebody has an opening coming their way, or they know their company's hiring for X, Y, Z, they're more likely to think of you. Because they interact with you, almost daily and they know who you are, they can vouch for you. You're a good, person, whatever. And it's just about opportunity. I don't know if Kyle have anything on that as well, but I think that's huge.
Kyle: 10:39
nobody knows everything. It's great to network, talk ideas, collaborate and stuff like that. That's always a good thing to do. Conferences, like you said are wonderful for that. You can find some new things maybe even different ways to approach a topic, to just get some fresh thoughts.
Pat: 10:56
Yeah, no, that's a good point. Yeah, so I would say do all the networking, you can meet everybody in your space, talk to people some of the bigger ones, out there can really open some doors and, just connect with them on a human level. And who knows what happens. So, that's a thing too, no matter what space you're in, that goes for everybody. It's not just the security space that we just rattled off, but all these spaces have amazing communities. So I would suggest being a part of all of them, if you can, they're large spaces, but, be a part of all of them and you know what what's the worst that can happen. So, Moving on in the next space for the networking nerds, like, Kyle and I obviously the big one in the room right. For networking is gonna. Cisco, they still, they're still the elephant in the room. For good, for bad. David bomb ball always has some great courses on his CCNA stuff through, you, to me and his own YouTube channel. So he's got a great YouTube channel network. Chuck is another, one's got a great YouTube channel. Professor Messer is also a great one. His YouTube channel is awesome. He's that's his main. Bread and butter. But he's in the comp tea space. So you're your trifecta, right? The big three, a plus net plus, and sec plus. So yeah, professor master network, Chuck, David bomb ball, all those guys have some really great content that, that are helping the the early on folks out there in their career. So, and then anything, getting your hands on stuff like Cisco labs, right? So, Cisco DevNet has a. Site out there to spin up virtual labs and, in their own sandboxes and you get to play around with their stuff without investing, thousands of dollars into actual gear. So, And it is literally thousands of dollars. So like, Kyle, I'm sure you remember, like when we were, cuz Kyle and I actually went to college together and we did our we did our CCNA or the Cisco networking academy together. We were in the same class and to try and get. Our hands onto Cisco stuff at that time was nearly impossible. And it was like, oh, it was painful. Like you had to literally sit in the lab. On campus to actually play with any of this stuff outside of class hours. So, but that's not the case today, right? That the, you literally go to the Cisco DevNet site or pack a tracer or, which is a Cisco product as well. It's free. And that stuff is literally at your fingertips of anything that Cisco I shouldn't say anything but vast majority of Cisco products now can be offered or at least laed up inside Cisco's DevNet sandboxes. So, I mean, you could literally go for. For days on that stuff, like, anything Cisco product is there. And really, if Cisco, you kind of know it all, like it's just, moving from vendor to vendors is, the nomenclature and the term terminology is different, but the underlying technology is basically the same, right? TCP is TCP. No matter if you get it through a Juniper, a Cisco Aruba, any of those, it's all TCP. So, labs are great in that space on cisco dev. Pack of tracers another one. If you get your hands on it, I think that's free now to everybody. Kyle, I don't know if, I don't think you have to have like special permissions through like the cisco academy to download that. I think it's free for everybody. Now, if I'm not mistaken.
Kyle: 13:54
and I think you're right. I think you just have to make a, Cisco account and you can get get access
Pat: 14:00
Sweet. Yeah. So that's cool too. Cisco packager is probably a little more suited for the newer folks that are, that are newer to Cisco. And that it's sort of a water down version, but it gets the job done. As far as teaching some of the basics, at least getting some gear spun up and you can kind of fool around in a bubble. So, big big fans of those. And. Truth be told I'm my new job now. We're a heavy, a very heavy Cisco shop. And, before I do anything, like they're interested in a product of Cisco's, whatever that is. I go to the DevNet site and see if it, if I can play with it in a lab. So that way I'm not breaking stuff. Potential production to push this button and see what it does sort of thing. So, that's that helps me as well from a everyday perspective of trying to, get my head around all the Cisco gear. So, big plus for that. And then kind of moving along to the cloud folks for everyone that has their heads in the clouds, a cloud guru is an amazing place to start for your cloud career. I believe if I'm not mistaken, they're part of Pluralsight now, but I think you can just get a cloud guru account. I don't believe you have to do both, but don't quote me on. I'm not exactly sure, but a cloud guru is a great place to start. They have, they cover all things cloud across the big three providers, right. aWS, Azure. And then. Google cloud platform or JCP for short. Also if you're really focused on the AWS side of things Adrian can Cantrill I think that's how you say his name. I hope I didn't butcher it. Cantrill has some amazing courses out there on his website for the AWS centered folks. And I believe I'm not mistaken. AWS still has the biggest market share in the cloud space. I don't know what the numbers are now, but I believe they're still the biggest ones. So obviously you can't go wrong with AWS cloud is huge nowadays, right? You can't go wrong with the cloud and that's cloud and the cloud just, it is just virtualizing servers and spitting them up and off you go, like there's way more to the cloud than just. Virtualizing, taking what's in your data center and then virtualizing it in, in the cloud somewhere. Like there is all kinds of stuff in the cloud. So, there's a lot to learn in there. So, and there's multiple pieces of that, so cloud's gonna be huge in the next couple of years securing the public cloud. And when I say public cloud, I mean providers like AWS, Azure GCP I think Oracle has a public cloud Ali BA. Has a public cloud. HP has some form of cloud, that sort of thing. So, securing those type of public clouds is going to be huge as well, but the public cloud also comes with their own. Sort of nomenclatures with other products. So like it's not just SQL databases anymore. It's, Mongo database and cosmos and there's other players in the space now as well because they're cloud. Native they're built for the cloud. So it's not like you're just virtualizing your SQL server and throwing it up there and calling it a day. There's other options there too. There's a whole networking aspect to the cloud that is just absolutely booming, with, load balancers. And now everyone's sort of making a cloud native or cloud ready Networking gear. So firewalls and SDWAN boxes, things of that nature. So it takes some of the complexity out of it to, out of virtualizing, all that and trying to fit, sometimes when you virtualize stuff, you're trying to fit a square peg or a round hole sort of thing. So, the clouds just absolutely booming. you. can't go wrong with any of the cloud stuff that's out there. So, cloud guru is a big place to start for that. And then obviously, you know, some of the other ones there, but it's cloud guru and Adrian cantrell. He's got some great, courses on there if You're in the AWS space. So, Kyle, anything on that moving forward.
Kyle: 17:42
That's all you. You're the cloud guy.
Pat: 17:44
Adam don't go spreading rumors. nah, I think the clouds it's obviously here, it's here to stay, right? It's not new anymore. It's not this fringe idea. It's totally here and it's. Just, it's amazing. What's going on up there in the cloud and it, you just can't go wrong. So I'm a big fan of the cloud. I think most places now are more comfortable with the hybrid model. Kyle, I don't know what you're seeing out there, but like, obviously a brick and mortar data center, plus some things in the cloud, right? Whether that be applications, whether it be, you know, storage AI or machine learning, any of that kind of stuff that I think, I think, there's room for hybrid there to
Kyle: 18:21
Yeah,
Pat: 18:22
play in both worlds.
Kyle: 18:23
it's a nice mix to be had with taking some cloud multiple sites, outsource it, push it off into the cloud. Yeah.
Pat: 18:30
If you do it right? Yep. Agreed. So that space is only getting bigger for the CIS admins out there, for Microsoft heads. Microsoft actually themselves has some great courses out there on their learning website. And it's it is heavily geared towards. Azure, but there are, which is their cloud platform, obviously. But it has other things on there as well. So active directory or SQL or anything, Microsoft products power BI, that sort of thing. It, it has training and courses and stuff on there. I'm actually going through a Microsoft learning. Module right now for Azure. So, just trying to learn a little bit more and it's free. There's nothing to it. You just have to have a Microsoft account. So obviously if they want this stuff to take off, they're gonna have to. Give you some training on it. So if they make the training free, people take advantage of that. So, and then they're more likely to, use that service. So, that's, I think that's a smart move on. Microsoft's part to kind of throw that out there and, they built the bridge and you just gotta walk across it, that sort of thing. So, have some great stuff out there on their learning website. And it's, there's a whole bunch of stuff out there. It's just me. I'm going towards the Azure stuff and the basic stuff. So trying to learn, what's out there and whatnot. Cause I previously came from an AWS world. So AWS now to Azure is a little bit different. So. Just trying to learn the names and, the nuances and nomenclature of the Azure world. So, some good stuff on there. Coding folks. So you kids that wanna be coders, software programmers and all that kind of stuff. I personally, I don't have the mind for that. That stuff drives me crazy, to be honest with you. And I like, I'm one of those guys that like in the network world, like Python and Ansible and the automation stuff is starting to make its way into the world. And I can, like, I barely can read a Python script. Like if you put one in front of me, I can. Make it out and be like, okay, yes, this is doing this. I can follow it. But like have me actually, like. Like write a script for a purpose I'm completely lost. I just don't have that sort of brain. And it's just, maybe that's just where I'm at in my career. And I don't necessarily, not that I don't like it. I will learn at some point. It's just, it's the future. I have to, not that you're gonna drag me kicking and screaming, but there's just other things that I'm learning at the moment that Python and the automation stuff is taking a backseat, but I just don't have that sort of brain for it. My, my brain can't follow. The structure I don't know, maybe that'll change one day down the, road, but that's where I'm at in my life at the, moment. Kyle, are you any good with like Python or any of that kind of stuff? I know you were sort of talking about it a little while ago.
Kyle: 21:02
yeah. That seems to to be the way that I've seen everything going a lot of Ansible now for, up, deploy this, you know, just use Ansible for everything. I was like, that seems pretty pretty awesome. Been working on Python for a few months now, just. free time, since, like you said, everything, see, you know, seems to be going that way with coding and writing scripts for things and stuff like that. So it was like be a nice tool for my tool belt to be able to
Pat: 21:27
Yeah. I hear you. Yeah. So, so anyway, for the, for you software and coding folks, code academy is the big one out there. It's a great place to start your coding journey, right? Code academy.com. if you're more interested in the Python language stuff or Ansible. Kirk Byers has an amazing Python course. I think he does Python and Ansible mainly, and he runs courses like I think four times a year and that's done by email list. So I'm on the email list. I get his emails all the time. I think it's like an eight part course or whatever. But I actually, sort of went through one a couple years back. like loosely followed it. but then I got busy and forgot all of it. So I probably will go back. probably this year, the next time he runs it, I will sign up for it again have him kind of reteach me Python. So I really need to get to that. Sort of mentioned this earlier. Cisco DevNet also has a ton of info for their, learning automation and code, infrastructures code get that sort of thing. It's all on Cisco DevNet. go check that stuff out as well. If you're, into that. Solo learn is also another option. If you're interested in the coding and programming language, they have a free. Tier, but they also have a paid tier. So, that's, an option as well. So code academy and solo learner are sort of in the same lanes, if you will. And then obviously Kirk by is doing the independent thing by himself. And then Cisco is obviously the Cisco is So, those are a couple options for the coding folk, to really get your coding career off the ground there. The other one too. And this is sort of. For the folks that are. like the reading, like they actually absorbed their, knowledge through reading. I'm not a reader. I, I, don't read my wife she reads like a hard books here. I'm like, I don't know how you do it, but like, but she's also a teacher and she reads for fun. I'm not a reader. I'm a video guy. I like to do outline style notes labs, things of that nature. That's how my brain works. But if you're a reader and like to suck in the knowledge, through the text and the words on pages, Kyle, you introduced me this one, humble bundle that's kind of fun to say, humble bundle platform, uh, has thousands of PDF style books, right? So you can. Buy 'em download take, you know, put 'em, on your Kindle, whatever e-reader you're using, you know, and whatever. So, there's a bunch of them out there. And I think Kyle, you said most of that goes to charity or how, how does that work?
Kyle: 23:41
Yeah, pretty much a percentage of it goes to to charity. There's, uh, little sliders. When you when you make your purchase you can kind of. Choose how that gets distributed among, you know, the different charities and, and the, the itself kind of deal like that. So you can, you know, if there's something that you particularly, like, you can just like slide that to 70, 80, 90%, but like all that's going over this but they get a lot of of good, You know, every week, two weeks and stuff like that, the uh, the books that they have as part of the bundles kind of change. Um, so one week it could be cyber security. The next it could be networking then, um, all Python, uh, different coding, stuff like that. So yeah, if you just, uh, check it out every now and then you find something that interests you.
Pat: 24:24
Yeah. So you're, uh, you're learning something and you're donating to charity, that's a good two for one right there. So, awesome. Awesome stuff by that. Yeah. That's humble bundle, uh, dot com and, and all of these links, everything we've mentioned will be in the show notes with links directly to them. don't worry about memorize them now. Just look at the show notes of this episode and we'll have links, to to all of that. So go check those out. And then you have your other platforms if you're sort of not sure what to, study for yet or what you're interested in then, you know, we have our, we have trainings and I've used almost all of these websites over my, the course of my career. You have sites like Pluralsight, which I said, Pluralsight, in a cloud guru are now. The one, you know, one company, if you will. Pluralsight, CBT nuggets I e.com, uh, TMY, Corsera all of those stuff have massive libraries of stuff to dive into. So whatever you are interested in, if you're not sure what you're just browse around and. Click on some videos that, interest you and take a flyer on. 'em often a lot of these sites, they, or these platforms, they come with like some form of free trial. So whether that's a week, a month, whatever, and normally if you email them and just say, Hey, I'm really interested in your platform. You know, what can you do? Or, you know, can you gimme a free trial, blah, blah, blah. They're more than willing to throw out a week or whatever it is to, you know, to potentially reign you in. So, yeah, So, those are more for the general. I don't know what I'm doing. I don't know what I'm looking for. so those are a couple sites just kind of browse around and find what your sticking point is. Kind of dive in head first. So, like I said, I've used all of those over the course of my career. Mainly poll sites CBC nuggets. I still have an id.com subscription I pay for personally. And then The company I'm with now pays for you to be business. So I'm taking some courses on there. That sort of thing, too. So, and when I was at Ren, they had Pluralsight. So, and you know, when I was studying for CCNA, I had the CBT nuggets, so I literally used all of them. But that's, it's good to see how far they've come. And a lot of these sites, Now they have like built in labs, right? So, you're, you know, they, you're using, you know, again, they're in the cloud, you know, whatever they hand you a hand, you a lab, you get, you know, get some real hands on experience with this stuff, whatever tend to be studying. You get a lab, with it and it's awesome. It's really great to see how this stuff has really evolved over last, couple of years. So, anything on that, Kyle?
Kyle: 26:45
I've also used, CBT nuggets Corra Pluralsight and they've all been super awesome. Um, U Tomy is the one that kind of started with. They had a lot of like low cost kind of options that you could get into, here's a course. Seven eight bucks or something like that and
Pat: 27:03
Yeah, I think that's important too. I think all those sites have some sort of, you know, rating system tied to them, but you, to me being the one that's. Pro predominantly, you know, sort of driven on, on the rating side, uh, of things. But yeah, I would agree with that. And you know, a lot of these instructors and stuff that are on these platforms, you know, they have a Twitter, they have a, they have an, a Facebook or a LinkedIn, you know, and I've reached out to a couple of them that I've taken actually, Christopher Reese, he was one of the very first guests on this podcast and I was taking his plural. security plus. And he you know, at the beginning of every episode, he said, Hey, connect with me on LinkedIn or Twitter and I asked him to be on the show and he obliged. So like, that's on me when you know, the networking opportunities come up with this stuff. Like it's more, you know, more than welcome. And then, you know, the other example from Pluralsight was Craig Stansberry. When I was my previous employer, they had a Pluralsight subscription. I was, making my way through Craig's CCMP security course. And, basically then switched jobs and therefore there goes my Pluralsight subscriptions. I knew I wasn't gonna finish the course in time. So I reached out to him on Twitter and said, Hey, like, Can you help me? Like, I'm like halfway through. I really like your course but I'm changing jobs. Can you help me out and you gave me a 30 day code that had 30 days for free on it. So I could finish the course which I did. So, yeah, so stuff like that happens all the time. So, you know, be I don't say unique, but be thoughtful, be engaged and most people just want to help you and help you succeed. So. Big shout out to, those guys for for being so cool and doing their things. So, a lot of people, like I said, a lot of people just wanna see you, you know, succeed. So, no, no secret to, the sauce there. That was kind of it those were the big ones that we wanted to touch on. Again, that's, we're not sponsored by any of those folks, but by all means, You wanna sponsor come talk to us, for sure. But now it's just stuff that we like and just try to pass along and, help you guys out to to further your careers. And if you wasn't sure where to start with some of the training stuff. All this either free or low cost. That sort of thing. So, um, give 'em a try and, and, that'd be awesome. So that was kind of all we had for this week. I know KA you have anything to add to that?
Kyle: 29:13
I mean, just hand at a bunch of different things. maybe a certain sector is not as easy for you to pick up right off the get go. So, you know, try a bunch of different things and, uh, see what kind of fits.
Pat: 29:22
so, um, yeah, that was it. Uh, it's a little short one. Uh, we usually go about an hour, so a little short one this week, but, um, now it's been great. Like I said, we have some really cool, guests coming up. We just gotta get schedules put together. And now that I'm back from baby. Adjustment life. The show will be, uh, weekly again. So I know we Took a, couple months off so I could adjust, but we are back to the weekly schedule, like you'll be hearing Kyle and us quite a bit some more guests lined up with some more, tech discussions and, you know, things of that nature. So, stay tuned for that And we'll be rocking and, rolling here really soon. gonna get outta here for you. Little soft rebrand for us. We're now breaking down the, bites podcast and, we have a new website breaking down the bites.io. You can subscribe the, show, right? From you know, your favorite platform, Stitcher iTunes, Spotify, Google podcasts, anywhere or you just need a plain RSS feed. You can get it there as well. So you never miss a show, iTunes, still doing the ratings thing. So if you could throw us a radio on iTunes, that would be awesome. that plays with the algorithm. And guess it's to the, you know, top of the list or closer to the top of the list, I should say. Simply tell a friend, right. That's you know, word of mouth is just as important in today's tech driven world. And I think some of the, tech and the social stuff is, so word of mouth is always good. That helps us out to follow us on Twitter, at breaking bites, pod. We just had to rebrand a little bit and we're still kind of getting some co webs out. So, all of our links will be in the show notes to follow us and whatnot. And then the discord server we have that's one of our initiatives over the next couple of months is to really get our discord server. Up And popping. So the invite is in the show notes there as well. The survey that we have there is still rolling. So survey in the show notes as well. If you wanna tell us how good or how bad we are we always take suggestions. So go go push that button. And it's like a 10, 10 question survey. It's completely anonymous. we don't, save any of your data in any of that kind of junk. It's just questions and answers and just tells us how we're doing and where we can improve the show on. all that is in the show notes go click on it and, uh, help us out a little bit. and again thanks for joining and we'll see you next week. Bye everybody.